7 When Uriah had come to him, David asked how Joab was doing, and how the people were doing, and how the war prospered. For all Uriah’s loyalty, he deserved it in return — and his king, the one he did it all for, killed him instead. Many preaching the gospel today lack power because the Holy Spirit has not come upon them or He has departed from them. Once again, Saul has disobeyed the divine commandment. It’s interesting that the world we live in always tells us that we can create our own destiny and reality. But kill both man and woman, infant and nursing child, ox and sheep, camel and donkey.’ ”. But that presumes that the Holy Spirit in those days was tied to the kingship. We have a list of sins that we characterize as “okay” and “terrible.” The church has become such a place where sins are “graded,” where homosexuality is the “worst” while the Pastor sleeping with the Deacon’s wife or daughter is “not as bad because at least he’s heterosexual.” But in the eyes of the Lord, sin is sin is sin. Saul loses the kingship. To assist in the conception of Nephilim giants or animal hybrids is absolutely outlawed. God doesn’t wait to act; His first form of condemnation is to send His prophet, Nathan, to David to confront him with his sin and motivate a confession: Then the Lord sent Nathan to David. He tried to get him drunk, tried to get him to lay with his wife, anything he could do to cover up David’s own adulterous affair. It is no different than the Israelites bowing before the golden calf, or a statue made of stone or wood. The Lord said that David “despised Me” when he sinned against the Lord, showing that all sin is hatred of God. He will be with you forever , that means you don’t really have Him. And if that had been too little, I also would have given you much more! The Spirit of the Lord, the Holy Spirit, lived within Joshua, as He lived within Moses. Did you not know that they would shoot from the wall? Gen. R. xix. It is a vehement rejection of God that drives Him away. The Holy Spirit gives us access to the Father through Christ. Saul used his power to choose to disobey the Lord willingly. As Samuel said to Saul in 1 Samuel 15, rebellion is as witchcraft and idolatry. Lusting after her, he desired to be sexually intimate with her. Saul disobeys this order, and God regrets making Saul king. 3 But the poor man had nothing, except one little ewe lamb which he had bought and nourished; and it grew up together with him and with his children. 4; comp. The Holy Spirit doesn’t leave us as a result of sin (s) but was given to us because of sin. Have great faith. David succeeds Saul, but David is key to helping us understand what happens to Saul. We distinguish between sins, but the Lord says that all sin is idolatry and witchcraft. This verse very clearly states that if someone does not have the indwelling presence of the Holy Spirit, then that person is not saved. When the Holy Spirit departs, the kingdom of Heaven has departed from a person or a congregation and the evil spirit takes over. David did love the Lord. He’d forgotten that the kingship was for God, and started believing it was about magnifying his greatness (i.e., the Carmel monument of himself). If a person or congregation has no righteousness, peace and joy, the Holy Spirit has departed from the person or congregation. Saul was told “God has rejected you from being king” but he had no spiritual radar to discern just what that meant. I’ve heard it said that Saul lost the Holy Spirit because God rejected him from the kingship. Saul was only repented so he can save his pride that’s how far he is gone from the Lord , his repentance is not from the heart . And, it is a reminder that God would finally put an end to Saul by killing him. “Behold, to obey is better than sacrifice, and to heed than the fat of rams,” the Lord says through Samuel to Saul in 1 Samuel 15:22. To fix this atrocity, God called for complete destruction, except for His own chosen survivors, Noah and his family, They are chosen because Noah alone is a godly man, and he has no genetic corruption from angels in his DNA/ lineage. Apparently, Nimrod was their willing guinea pig. 1 John 1:8: If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Father Mbaka by mrborntodoit: 11:47am On Jan 06, 2015 BeeBeeOoh : That's y I said earlier on that most men of God have forgoten 2 redeem souls 4 God but venture in2 politics becos of fat envelops. Why Bathsheba mourned Uriah and then became David’s wife is likely chalked up to the fact that she had no choice in the matter. The Holy Spirit is fire. Yahweh know all who belong to him. The message he gets is a dire one: “tomorrow, you and your sons will be with me.” And the following day, in battle with the Philistines, Saul is mortally wounded and falls on his own sword. David is relying on God’s mercy and the wealth of His mercy to plead for forgiveness. We don’t know how Uriah would have responded had he known the truth, but David didn’t seem to care about Uriah’s knowledge of the events. It was David’s playing that would bring peace to Saul and remove the evil spirit from him. The Lord made His decision to strip Saul of the kingship, and that was it. 9 But Uriah slept at the door of the king’s house with all the servants of his lord, and did not go down to his house. Langenscheidt's Hebrew-English Dictionary to the Old Testament (p. 324) defines rephaim as referring to the "departed spirits, shades." The glory had already departed, and this was only an open manifestation of that fact. Barrett quoted G. F. Moore approvingly: ‘The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of prophecy … The Holy Spirit is so specifically prophetic inspiration that when Haggai, Zechariah, and Malachi, the last prophets, died, the Holy Spirit departed from Israel.’ He abandoned the Holy Spirit long before the Holy Spirit abandoned him. One theory proposed behind the departure of the Holy Spirit from Saul pertains to the kingship. God cannot be bribed, He cannot be “swayed” from righteousness, justice, or His Law. He has an evil spirit sent to him from the Lord, a sign that God had given Saul up to his eternal condemnation. For He is not a man, that He should relent” (1 Samuel 15:28-29). Instead of doing that, Saul killed everyone except King Agag and kept the best of the possessions. The removal of the Spirit from one and the giving of the Spirit to the other was God’s supernatural declaration that the throne had been taken from Saul and given to David. God wants us to walk before Him and be perfect (Ge.17:1). He also has rejected you from being king.” (1 Samuel 15:23). The first 600 years of church history, including the apostles’ age in the church after the resurrection and ascension of Jesus, existed without any teaching on the Doctrine of Eternal Security. We may not lose our salvation because of our sins, but Christ’s finished work would be in vain in us, which means we may live a powerless and fruitless life as a result of our disobedience. How “Saul is God’s chosen” and “God was right to depart from Saul” fit together is anyone’s guess, but Calvinism, in particular, has no answer for it. Rather, one should understand that Calvin’s doctrine is that he argues for unconditional perseverance (a perseverance that isn’t based on faith or anything else) while others such as Arminians argue for a conditiona l perseverance — that is, one must persevere in faith. This question above demands that we pause to accept something: that is, that a man or woman can be regenerate and yet, apostatize and fall away from God. It is a forceful repulsion by the apostate, a command for the Holy Spirit to leave them. Ironically, it is by His grace and mercy to command His servants, or by His own direct intervention, to completely destroy and stop the proliferation of these poor creatures. He was a skillful harp player, with musical talent. As the Holy Spirit departed from Saul, so does He depart from a person or congregation. If there is no power, no signs and wonders following the Servant who has not finished his/her race, the Holy Spirit has departed from the servant. The Israelites weren’t kings (the kingship didn’t even exist among them at the time), yet they had the Holy Spirit’s indwelling presence. 9 Why have you despised the commandment of the Lord, to do evil in His sight? In it, we read the soul of a man who has been confronted by Nathan the prophet with the realization that he, David, has sinned before God. The Kingdom of God and the kingdom of the world (Satan) do not mix. It was time to depart, and depart He did. And then, to see Saul claim that he had “performed the commandment of the Lord” is even further proof of just how spiritually lost Saul was. Not only did the Lord send Nathan to rebuke David; He also told David that his love child with Bathsheba would die as a result. Saul turned away from who he was originally. He was one who pursued God’s heart. I think we should have the humility of David, never forgetting that God can cast us from His presence and remove His Holy Spirit from us if we put our sin before Him and sin without care for God’s law. I highly doubt that he was being insincere and saying what he did merely for theatrical effect. Some today do not have the same belief as David; he believed the Holy Spirit could depart from his life, but many do not. God made promises to David in 2 Sam.7:11b-16 and 1Chron. In Acts 2, the Holy Spirit came upon every believer. I have performed the commandment of the Lord.” (1 Samuel 15:10-13). God’s regret, and the desertion of Saul by the Holy Spirit suggests that Saul may even have consorted with the Amalikite sorcerers to be genetically altered to become like a giant himself. While David had always had a humble heart , He repented right away he accepted responsibility of his sin with Bathsheba,In another instance, when he looked at himself as a king by sending his servants to fetch water from a well Dangerous for anyone to cross over to , and they went and willingly obeyed him and made it through . (2 Samuel 11:1-27). These words remind us that, to be unfaithful to someone, there must be a covenant. Stubbornness “is as iniquity and idolatry.” To be stubborn is no different than sin (iniquity) and idolatry. He wasn’t sorry over his sin, wasn’t grievous over his sin. When David sins, and is warned by the prophet, he goes before God and confesses his sin to the One to whom he must give an account. To obey God, to “heed” the Lord and listen to His words, is better than “the fat of rams.” What God is saying is that, even if you give rams and their fat (the fat was the choicest portion of the animals that was reserved for God when an offering was given), it doesn’t undo one’s disobedience if he or she disobeys. And yet, the question remains as to why it happened. To sin is to commit idolatry because, when someone sins, he or she chooses to go his or her own way instead of God’s way. I don’t want to end up with a life devoid of the Holy Spirit, where the Holy Spirit departs from me as it has done Saul.” David saw Saul’s life devoid of the Spirit up-close, enough to know that he didn’t want to live his life in the same manner. 10 So when they told David, saying, “Uriah did not go down to his house,” David said to Uriah, “Did you not come from a journey? Angels are exceedingly intelligent. Why the disparity in the divine judgment between Saul and David? 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